recursiveparadox | Re: Two points (Reply)

From: (Anonymous)

My thesis if you prefer is predicated on the example of those born with male genitalia. Those born with female genitalia sadly must follow a far different path and for more reasons than the rather poor outcomes of the surgeries. It is still beyond medical science to add to the body with any certainty or even success as surgery by it's very nature is reductive not adductive. That said I know of more than a few men who are also sick and tired of the continuum inclusion and to a one. if the surgery was available they would have it in a heart beat!

That said, I still hold by what I said. If the desire is not there to remove the offending organ then one is simply not transsexual. I did not say that this person does not suffer. I did not say this person is not driven. I simply said this person is not transsexual.

Look at it this way, the very word transsexual defines this as the deviding line. If you would indulge me for a moment to quote Webster’s as you have done on your blog Dys

Lets srtart with the root words

Transition, Main Entry: 1tran·si·tion
Pronunciation: \tran(t)-ˈsi-shən, tran-ˈzi-, chiefly British tran(t)-ˈsi-zhən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin transition-, transitio, from transire
Date: 1551
1 a : passage from one state, stage, subject, or place to another : change b : a movement, development, or evolution from one form, stage, or style to another
2 a : a musical modulation b : a musical passage leading from one section of a piece to another
3 : an abrupt change in energy state or level (as of an atomic nucleus or a molecule) usually accompanied by loss or gain of a single quantum of energy

— tran·si·tion·al \-ˈsish-nəl, -ˈsizh-, -ˈzish-; -ˈsi-shə-nəl, -ˈzi-, -zhə-\ adjective

— tran·si·tion·al·ly adverb

Sex: Main Entry: 1sex
Pronunciation: \ˈseks\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin sexus
Date: 14th century
1 : either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures
2 : the sum of the structural, functional, and behavioral characteristics of organisms that are involved in reproduction marked by the union of gametes and that distinguish males and females
3 a : sexually motivated phenomena or behavior b : sexual intercourse
4 : genitalia

Put them together as Dr benjamine did and you get this : (I had to refer to an older copy of Amerincan Heritege as Webster's on line still goes here but has to be just a tad politicaly correct with what they put on line these days

Transsexual Main Entry: trans·sex·u·al
Variant(s): also tran·sex·u·al \(ˌ)tran(t)s-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -shəl\
Function: noun
1. A person with an overwhelming desire to become the other sex. 2. A person whose sex has been changed externally through surgery

The very idea that there can be such a creature as the non-op is beyond the pale. It is an oxymoron.. Again this is NOT to belittle those who come from a different place and are driven by different needs

it is just saying that if you are happy with things are, then you are not a transsexual!.

Why the hang-up on terminology? It's because those with that desire are simply not part of a contiuum. They come from a different place with different needs and different goals and lumping us in with those who come from those different places is a disservice to both.

There is a human desire for neatness and so it is not at all unreasonable that those who have not experienced this have been willing to create a unified field theory of gender issues. Sadly this is not to our best interests as it deflects attention away from these being separate issues. By pushing them together it blends all gender issues together into a huge muddy mess. What is worse it is much easier to sweep under the carpet that way too. Transsexual crossdresser same thing fer-get-about-um!

Whether you realize it or not there is a backlash going on in this country from that blending. And it does threaten us as noting has since we were allowed to get surgical correction. We are being seen by the right as the cutting edge of undermining family values and to the gay left we are canon fodder to be used and disposed of when their needs are fulfilled What this means in the hear and now for a transsexual is records are becoming harder to change, the level of documentation more stringent. the test of passing more difficult if you will...

It is certainly harder for us to transition, as the man in the street becomes educated of the "markers" that wrong sex hormones produce. We get read now in places and situations when years back, we didn't.

We are not the same and it’s time to say this loud and clear. It’s time to push for study of these as different issues by more than Milt Diamond. It’s time for research into the reasons why both conditions exist and how to treat it best.

As for the being a woman over being a man… It certainly would have been easier if there was a way round this but that simply does not exist. I was female, I will always be female and so being female fully it is the happier state of being for me.

Sibyl