recursiveparadox | Re: You've Crushed Nothing (Reply)

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I'm a bit, well, surprised doesn't work. Maybe disappointed, that you continue to make grandoise claims ("you've crushed nothing" indeed) when you still can't provide rebuttals beyond backpedaling.

At least you're being smart about the studies. I would disagree that the research to date is leading to that inference, for one, there isn't enough research to make a whole lot of inferences at all. But that's a minor quibble, speculation on science is a constant and mostly harmless.

"True" transsexualism as per the small movement your site represents is defined by arbitrary, near nonsensical lines. Lines I might point out that are not drawn on cis women in any way. While there is a difference between transsexual and non transsexual transgender, that defined difference exists currently in the terminology of the oppressor only (as dyssonance has so kindly pointed out). And if you want to change it, you may, but the lines you wish to draw to change it are flawed. I've taken a look at your TGN blog, I've looked over the more paranoid of the NI model advocates. What I see is a nonstop paranoid delusion regarding a community that is doing nothing to harm you, nothing to subsume you and is certainly seen as a thousands times more legitimate than you or I. That's a bit more than just saying, "hey, there's a difference here, we should honor that so needs are met." It's a bit of a poorly conceived obfuscatory measure to try to pretend that this paranoia and these arbitrary lines are not present in your arguments when you previously (in the comment I responded to, that you are following up on now) exhibited that paranoia and that arbitrary non sequitor reasoning. You must think I have an exceptionally poor memory or work ethic for background research. XD

After all, transvestites, crossdressers, drag queens/kings, gender variant, social role adjusters, gender deconstructionists and other members of the trans realm that don't fit TS (as currently defined) aren't getting surgery and hormone therapy. They don't even want it. We are. And we are seen as self mutilators. Drastic crazies. The NI model (neurological intersex model) does not dispel this notion. These are the people who view intersexed folk as broken freaks. If anything, it is a lateral move with the people you seek to curry favor with. They'll still try to "fix" it in the brain. They'll still see you as a broken freak. And the IS community doesn't seem to appreciate your colonization of them. And the people we have a chance in hell with being offered legitimacy by (the liberal zone and the purely fiscal conservatives) often see us through the lens of twisted feminism, as gender role reinforcement apologists, stereotypes or "ghastly parodies". The TG folk to them are closer to the ideal world, breaking away from gender stereotypes and role reinforcement without surgery.

TS is not losing legitimacy to anyone. TG is actually a safer word to use for TS folk. Beyond that:

It is reasonable to ask that classification reflects different needs. The needs of a gender deconstructor does not match the needs of a dysphoric TS. Where you leave the bounds of reason is in drawing arbitrary lines based on stupid things like "when you figured it out", "how quickly you went for surgery", "who you are attracted to", "are you a prim and demure young lady?" Where you leave the bounds of reason is creating this grand delusion of a vast Evil Transgenderist Conspiracy and base it on flawed at best depictions of a trans person from 40 years ago. Quite frankly, dysphoria and a need for adjustment to end it is (so far) the only truly justified marker for determining if one ought to be called a transsexual. No other presentment so far has really qualified. All the justifications go in circles and eventually fall off the logic cliff. And obviously, commenting on the style of my blog as though it was very important to your points (like the reclamation of the word bitch as a means to make my voice heard) really just makes it look like you have nothing of substance to say.

It's unfortunate really. There are people out there, reasonable not paranoid people, who believe the NI model describes them and their dysphoria the best. They don't think the TG community is out to eat them and welcome the help. They don't run around calling folks gender fascists (which admittedly was ridiculous enough to make me giggle). And especially, they don't constantly misgender and insult people to stop dissent. And people like you and yours are what makes them come of as paranoid, raving lunatics when they bring it up. Great job.