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shemale ([personal profile] shemale) wrote in [personal profile] recursiveparadox 2009-08-12 02:35 pm (UTC)

I think that i've pretty much expressed all i have to say except for one point:

Cissexism is not necessarily an actively malicious or even conscious thing, so "these words and this system" don't need to have been "built [with the intention] to screw us," but that they screw us nonetheless, since our bodies and health needs don't fit into the standards set up by those words and that system so we often go without coverage or without necessary health care and face legal or other kinds of ramifications for not fitting into one category or the other by cissexual, cissexist standards.


And, an answer to your question:

You said that "those definitions can be changed. Female could become 'one who either possesses (and is content with) or wishes to attain or self conceptualizes more closely with the bodily structure commonly created by the XX triggered developmental path.' (as an example)"

When you said this before, you left out the "or self conceptualizes."

With that included, this is what it means when a trans woman says "i identify my body as female" (!!).

They do not phrase it that way, because that would be long-winded, pedantic, and frankly annoying, but this is (more or less) what that means.

So, do go ahead and change the way you define "male" and "female" along those lines, and remember that when a trans man who isn't planning on having any surgeries or taking any T that when he says "i identify my body as male," what he means is generally (and again, more or less) that he "either possesses (and is content with) or ... self conceptualizes more closely with the bodily structure commonly created by the XY-triggered developmental path."


This entire discussion, it seems, was a masturbatory exercise achieving nothing.

I think that, at this point, anything more we can say would be for the pleasure of hearing ourselves talk.

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